Aussie
Speeding Fines
aussiespeedingfines.com
Analysing
the eBook Scam.
Many people have asked me whether
the legal strategies and advice
provided on websites such as
http://www.aussiespeedingfines.com and
http://www.fightfines.info actually
work. I hope this page helps answer
those questions. Here is an analysis of
the legal advice offered by the authors
of those sites.
Both aussiespeedingfines.com and
fightfines.info advise motorists who
receive a ticket to send letters back
to the enforcement agency in an
apparent attempt to avoid the fine. The
major difference between the two sites
is that aussiespeedingfines.com charges
people approximately $67 for
essentially the same information but
packaged with additional material that
is both inaccurate and irrelevant. The
main product sold by
aussiespeedingfines is a set of
"pre-written letters" which the author
suggests you should send to the
enforcement agency that booked you. The
site makes the bold claim that doing so
will allow you to avoid liability for
the traffic or parking infringement
that you have received.
You can easily download the same or
similar letters for absolutely free via
the links in the next paragraph or from
several
other sites on the Internet. I do
not endorse or recommend the use of
these letters. Using these pro-forma
letters is very likely to damage your
chances of winning your case, and has
almost no chance of saving you from
licence loss or financial penalty.
I have no problem with people representing
themselves in court to fight traffic fines. In fact, I recommend it to
people in certain cases. But I do object to people paying good
money for information that is not only incorrect, but positively
dangerous to rely on. If Mike Palmer of Aussie Speeding Fines had
consumer's interests at heart, he could simply publish his ideas for
free online, and perhaps ask for donations from all his happy
fans. But instead, he is making huge profits from selling bad
legal advice, he tries to hide his identity from his customers and he
pretends to have legal knowledge when in fact he has no legal training
whatsoever. The sole purpose of this site is to make consumers aware
how easy it is for anonymous con-men to rip-off vulnerable people by
selling junk online. This site lifts the veil of anonymity that Aussie
Speeding Fines tries to hide behind.
Just
send some letters!
The strategy recommended by Aussie
Speeding Fines and Fightfines.info is
to send the police some standard form
letters with your own details inserted
in
them:
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1. Send this first
letter (it is re-printed
below). Wait for a
response.
2. If the police ignore
your first letter and proceed
to enforce the fine (which
they will do), send this
clarification
letter as a follow-up.
3. Then you wait 28 days
and send them this second
letter. (This letter is
hilarious nonsense. Utterly
unintelligible - a must
read!!)
4. Then when they continue
to harrass you for payment of
the fine and record demerit
points against you, just send
them this this
third letter.
5. Because the letters are
unintelligible (they are
clearly not written by
lawyers), the author then
produced this
help sheet to try to
explain the system to his
clients.
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You will notice that the letters do
not contain an election to go to court.
If you rely on these letters you are
losing your chance of winning your case
in court, and nothing in the letter
stops the police from enforcing the
fine or prevents demerit points
accruing.
Update: Aussiespeedingfines.com has
recently created an additional letter
that claims to be an election to take
the case to court. However the
objection letter may be invalid because
it requests a jury trial or a hearing
before two judges!!! Their instructions
state:
Because
they insist on harassing you, you
are asking for the matter to be
heard in a court of competent
jurisdiction. ie. a trial by jury or
a court that has 2 Judges present.
They obviously cannot do this for
every simple traffic fine and this
will, in many cases, stop them in
their tracks. Please remember that
it is your Constitutional right to
request this.
The author seems to be unaware that
neither option is possible in Australia
for any offence that arises from the
issuing of a traffic infringement
notice. Only specific indictable
offences are eligible to be heard
before a jury. Magistrates Courts do
not have juries. The Infringement's Act
requires traffic offence cases to be
heard in a Magistrates Court. All
traffic offences are summary offences,
not indictable offences. Perhaps the
aussiespeedingfines author has copied
this letter from an Amercian website.
It won't work here.
If you have had success (or
otherwise) using the above letters,
drop me a line. I would love to know
how you fared! if you relied on the
strategy provided by
aussiespeedingfines.com and you still
lost your licence or incurred demerit
points, you should get legal advice
about your rights because you are
entitled claim compensation from the
person who advised you to take that
course (his identity is revealed below
to assist you to do
that).
The First
letter:
John
Smith
10 Smith Street
Smithville
VIC 3333
28th
July 2007
Senior
Constable Iva Radar
Smithville Traffic
Management Unit
1 Copper Street
Smithville
VIC 3333
Obligation
Number:
0000000000
Re:
Infringement Notice
23456789
Dear
Iva Radar and VICTORIA
POLICE,
Your
claim is conditionally
accepted for value on the
grounds that you, Iva Radar
and VICTORIA POLICE SERVICE
now provide a sworn
affidavit and supporting
documentation that
substantiates your claim
that the Speed Measuring
Device that you have used
to allegedly record the
speed of my automobile on
10th April 2007 conforms to
the National Measurement
Act 1960 (Cth) in respect
of its use for making
measurements for any legal
and monetary
purpose.
I
am seeking certification
that the speed measuring
device is both a legal and
certified measurement
device to measure and
record in accordance with
the Australian legal units
of measurement, as defined
by the National Measurement
Act 1960 (Cth). The only
lawful way of doing this is
to provide the specific NSC
(National Standards
Commission) number that has
been allocated to this
device and by providing a
copy of the certificate
that has been issued for
this device under
Regulation 13 of said Act.
I
am also seeking
certification that the
device is used in
accordance with the
training manual and
operators manual that
relates to this device and
that you adhered to all the
guidelines/policies for the
use of this device in the
state of Victoria, issued
by VICTORIA POLICE
SERVICE.
I
seek further certification
that Code/Road Rule 1234 is
actually part of a current,
legal and valid law in the
State of Victoria. I will
require certification that
this law has in fact been
legally enacted by the
Victorian Parliament in the
Queens name.
I
will endeavour to
dis-charge the associated
tax, conditional on the
grounds that I receive from
you the sworn affidavit and
supporting documentation
that substantiates your
claim that the above
documents do indeed exist.
Upon receipt of these
documents and
certification, I will
require further information
from you as to how I am
able to lawfully,
constitutionally,
meaningfully and
conscientiously extinguish
or dis-charge an alleged
debt/tax in excess of AU$20
in the Commonwealth of
Australia without breaching
the Currency Act 1965,
specifically Sections 9,
11, 16 and 22, considering
that the highest
denomination coin in common
circulation in the
Commonwealth of Australia
is the AU$2 coin.
Additionally, the conflict
that exists regarding the
face value of coins makes
it impossible to value the
Australian dollar.
Iva
Radar and VICTORIA POLICE
SERVICE shall produce proof
of claim within 28 days
upon receipt hereof with
the affidavit and attached
supporting documentation as
aforementioned, or Iva
Radar and VICTORIA POLICE
SERVICE shall:
1.
admit and agree that no
such documentation can be
produced by Iva Radar and
VICTORIA POLICE SERVICE;
and,
2.
admit and agree that Iva
Radar and VICTORIA POLICE
SERVICE cannot enforce
speed limits by means of
the readings obtained from
a device that is not
compliant with the laws of
the Commonwealth in respect
of legal metrology;
and,
3.
agree that where there is
an inconsistency between a
law of the Commonwealth and
a law of a State, the law
of the Commonwealth shall
prevail and the law of the
State shall be invalid to
the extent of the
inconsistency as set out in
Section 109 of the
Commonwealth Constitution
Act 1900UK; and,
4.
agree that Iva Radar and
VICTORIA POLICE SERVICE
are bound by
covering clause 5 of
the Commonwealth of
Australia Constitution Act
1900UK; and,
5.
agree that Iva Radar and
VICTORIA POLICE SERVICE
knowingly, willfully and
intentionally failed to
present proof of claim
within the time certain,
specified and allotted
herein; and,
6.
agree that the conditions
required in this
Conditional Acceptance are
not frivolous or vexatious;
and,
7.
agree to be prohibited from
taking unlawful action
based on a radar reading
against John Smith by way
of any fine or any
lawsuit or any procedure
for taking or confiscation
or allocating demerit
points in relation to a
driver's licence, which may
occur as a result of this
alleged infringement ;
and,
8.
agree that no officer or
representative of VICTORIA
POLICE SERVICE may attempt
to perform any act which is
unlawful, or falsely
represents that they and
VICTORIA POLICE SERVICE are
acting in full accord with
the laws of the
Commonwealth and the laws
of Her Majesty the Queen in
the State of Victoria;
and,
9.
agree that any such attempt
may constitute a breach of
Section 43 of the Crimes
Act 1914 (Cth);
and,
10.
agree that John Smith has
and retains the right to
claim damages as a result
of any adverse or harmful
effects upon him brought
about by the actions of Iva
Radar and VICTORIA POLICE
SERVICE and/or it's
officers; and
11.
agree that the only way
that Iva Radar and VICTORIA
POLICE SERVICE may reject
this agreement and
consensual contract is by
way of providing the
requested sworn affidavit
and attached supporting
documentation within the
time stipulated in this
agreement, and in no other
written or verbal
manner.
If
Iva Radar and VICTORIA
POLICE SEVICE agree to the
aforementioned terms and
conditions of agreement and
contract, then simply do
nothing within the allotted
time for
response.
Yours
Sincerely,
John
Smith
N.B.
This document is to be used
Without Prejudice towards
the author. All rights
reserved
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Analysis
of the First Letter
This letter, which can be downloaded
from
here, is as useful as a nursery
rhyme. There is barely a sentence in
the letter that makes legal sense. It
is totally misconceived in its
assumption that you can make demands of
the police to provide non-existent
information to you which they are not
under any obligation at law to provide
(even if the information existed). It
then makes the bizarre claim that the
consequence of non-compliance with your
demands is that the police have agreed
not to prosecute you. If that were
correct, then I could send you a letter
demanding you sell me your car for
$20.00 and unless you reply to me
within 28 days with proof of the
existence of Santa Clause, then we have
a deal and the car is mine... Good
grief!
Perhaps the intention of the first
letter is to distract the enforcement
agency (usually the police of the local
council) into trying to comply with
your demands in the faint hope that
they will be conned into believing that
compliance with those demands is a
precondition to enforcing the penalty.
It is not. All the enforcement agency
will do is continue to enforce the fine
in accordance with Part 4 and Parts 7
to 12 of the Infringements
Act (together with any resulting
demerit points and licence loss) unless
the offender exercises his or her
rights under either s.16 or s.64 of the
Infringements Act, or s.89A(4) Road
Safety Act 1986 in the case of licence
loss offences. Nowadays most
enforcement agencies are smart enough
to know this. They know that the law
allows two main options: (1) if you
object to the fine they can take you to
court where you can defend yourself, or
(2) if you fail to pay the fine, they
can have an enforcement order made
against you. Any other correspondence
from you will be considered by the
Traffic Camera Office and may have the
effect of delaying enforcement of the
fine but it is extremely unlikely to
result in your fine being cancelled,
dropped or avoided.
If you think that sending letters
like the one above will avoid legal
liability for an infringement notice
you are destined to be very
disappointed. I note that the first
letter is addressed to the police
member who issued the infringement
notice, as are all the follow-up
letters. The author does not seem to
realise that the police member who
issued the ticket has no role to play
in the process after the infringement
notice is issued. Once it is issued,
Civic Compliance and the Infringements
Court undertake all administrative
processes in respect of the
infringement. Objections are sent to
Civic Compliance. Sob stories are
handled by the Traffic Camera Office's
Penalty Review Board. Fines are
collected by Civic Compliance.
Defaulters are chased by Civic
Compliance and the Infringements Court.
The police member has no role to play.
He can not drop the fine even if he
wanted to. In practice he will withdraw
and cancel the fine only if he issues a
replacement fine or a charge and
summons. Importantly, he has no need to
go searching for irrelevant
documentation just because you ask him
to. The police member who issued the
ticket will almost never respond to
your correspondence. You will get a
letter in reply from the Traffic Camera
Office telling you to pay up. So
sending your follow-up letters to the
person who issued the infringement
notice is a waste of time. It will
merely dig you deeper and deeper into a
hole until you find you have dug so
deep you can not get out, and no one
cares that you are in there. The member
who issued the notice will not have any
role to play unless you lodge an
objection to the fine and ask to go to
court, in which case the police member
will file and serve a charge and
summons.
In any case, if you take your case
to court and rely solely on an
imaginary private settlement agreement
as your defence then you are certain to
lose. No Australian court has ever
accepted that such an agreement is
lawful or possible. Quite simply, even
if we assume that you have entered into
a private agreement with the police, by
law it is impossible to contract out of
criminal liability. In fact, to enter
into a contract with a police member
which purports to prevent that police
member from prosecuting you is an
offence called perverting, or
attempting to pervert, the course of
justice. If I am a police member
investigating you for an offence and I
sign an agreement with you in which I
promise not to file charges, this does
not prevent me or any other member of
the police from filing charges against
you for exactly the same offence. Only
the Director Of Public Prosecutions has
the power to grant someone immunity
from prosecution for a criminal
offence. The concept of a "private
settlement" is ridiculous.
You will also notice that the
proposed letters contain similar
verbiage to other lunatic letters which
can be found on the Internet, and also
terminology common in civil courts in
the United States but which have no
relevance in Australia:
- Letter
written to declare Texas an
independant republic
- Oregon
affidavit attempting to get out
of a traffic fine
Letter
to the tax Commissioner trying to
avoid tax.
Aussiespeedingfines.com also
publishes some pro-forma letters which
they recommend you should send to the
police if you want to blame (or if you
are unable to blame) someone else for
driving your vehicle at the time a
camera offence is detected (i.e. if you
want to pass the buck even though you
were the driver). I am aware of many
people who have sent these pro-forma
documents to civic compliance. The
letters are clearly a fiction and
expose the motorist to charges of
perjury or attempting to pervert the
course of justice if the matter ends up
in court. Drivers can be imprisoned for
doing this. The use of pro-formas or
fictional explanations to excuse
yourself from a speeding ticket is
dangerous and should not be undertaken
lightly. Sending such letters can
adversely affect your chances of
winning at court.
The first letter falsely implies
that use of a speed measuring device is
unlawful if the device has not been
certified under the National
Measurement Act. For decades this
argument has been tried and the courts
have consistently said that no law in
Australia imposes any obligation for
speed measuring devices to be so
certified. There are still people who
think they can win using this defence.
I know they can not. Some of my clients
faced with speeding charges have asked
me to run this defence. From my
experience in court and my legal
research I am confident that this
argument has no prospect of success.
Nearly every State Supreme Court or
Court of Appeal has handed down
decisions that reject this argument.
This
page explains more about the NMA
defence.
What the first letter says about the
Currency
Act is utter garbage. No
commentary needed. Just read the
legislation and
laugh.
The
Second Letter
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NOTICE
OF DEFAULT
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BETWEEN
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Senior
Constable Iva
Radar,
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OF
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- Smithville
Traffic
Management
Unit
- 1
Copper
Street
- Smithville
- VIC
3333
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AND
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John
Smith
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OF
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- 10
Smith
Street
- Smithville
- VIC
3333
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DATED:
May 5th 2007
ON
THE MATTER
Alleged
Infringement No. 000012345
Know
all men that I, John Smith of
10 Smith street, Smithville in
the State of Victoria, in the
Commonwealth of Australia, did
on the 28th day of April 2007
make a Conditional Acceptance
of the claim by Senior
Constable Iva Radar and
VICTORIA POLICE that the speed
measuring device used to
allegedly record the speed of
my automobile on 10th April
2007 conforms to the National
Measurements Act 1960 in
respect of its use for the
taking of measurements for any
legal purpose.
The
claim by Senior Constable Iva
Radar and VICTORIA POLICE was
accepted for value on the
basis that Senior Constable
Iva Radar and VICTORIA POLICE
provide within 28 days, a
sworn Affidavit and supporting
documentation substantiating
that the speed measuring radar
device used to allegedly
record the speed of my
automobile on 10th April 2007
conforms to the National
Measurements Act 1960 in
respect of their use for
making measurements for any
legal purpose.
As
Senior Constable Iva Radar and
VICTORIA POLICE, being fully
aware of the terms of the
Conditional Acceptance, failed
to provide any documentary
evidence in support of their
claim within the time period
specified, they have defaulted
in respect of their claim and
have admitted and agreed to
the terms of the Conditional
Acceptance tendered,
notwithstanding any
unsubstantiated denials that
may be made by them that the
speed measuring radar device
does not comply with the
National Measurements Act 1960
when used for any legal
purpose.
Wherefore
I now, in the presence of a
Justice of the Peace,
acknowledge and accept the
default by Senior Constable
Iva Radar and VICTORIA POLICE
as agreement, settlement and
closure between the
parties.
Dated
this……………….day
of
………………………2006
Signed……………………………...
Before
me………………………….
A
Justice of the
Peace
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Legal
Analysis of the Second
Letter
The instructions tell you to send
the above second letter (which can be
downloaded
as a .doc from here) a month after
the first letter if the police fail to
provide you with the affidavit and
associated documents that you have
demanded in the first letter. Of course
you will never get a satisfactory
response to the first letter, if not
only for the reason that some of the
things that are asked for do not exist
and probably never will. So the second
letter is intended to acknowledge in
writing that the police are in breach
of your demands. The document is
written in the style of a court
document and tries to look official,
even though it is pure garbage.
The second letter is addressed to
the police member who issued the
infringement notice, but as mentioned
earlier, any reply to your first letter
will come from the Traffic Camera
Office (even if yours is not a camera
offence). The letter starts with the
phrase "Know all men..." A clear
indication that the writer is a tosser.
Perhaps the language used is intended
to make the document sound like a
lawyer wrote it. But this phrase has
never previously been seen in private
contracts and is probably only found
these days in very old legislation or
your grandfather's will.
The author goes on to say that he
"makes a Conditional Acceptance of the
claim" of the police member that the
radar or laser used by the police
member "conforms to" the National
Measurement Act ("NMA"). Perhaps he
means "complies with the National
Measurement Act "? Anyway, I seem to
have missed the part where the police
ever claimed that their laser or radar
conforms with the National Measurement
Act. The police have never made any
such claim, so it is a mystery how the
writer can take it upon himself to
accept a non-existent claim (even if
acceptance is required).
Paragraph 2 of the letter is even
more meaningless. It states that the
claim by the policeman was accepted for
value. Is this the same claim as is
referred to in paragraph 1, i.e. the
claim, which the police never made,
that his radar conforms to the NMA? If
so, how can it be accepted "for value"?
Did someone pay for the claim? What was
its value? What the hell does that
mean? It is not even English. Don't
forget you will have to stand in court
and explain the meaning of these
letters to a Magistrate if you intend
to prove that this private settlement
is legally binding. Perhaps he is
referring to the financial penalty
specified in the infringement notice?
If so, why not say so? If so, it is not
a claim anyway. It is a fixed penalty
imposed by parliament as punishment for
a criminal offence which is payable if
you admit guilt by not challenging the
matters alleged in the infringement
notice. Claims are made in civil
proceedings. They have no role
whatsoever in a criminal process.
Paragraph 3 alleges that the police
"have defaulted in respect of their
claim and have admitted and agreed to
the terms of the Conditional Acceptance
tendered". But what claim have they
defaulted on? Is it the claim referred
to in the first paragraph of the second
letter that their radar conformed with
the NMA, being a claim that the police
actually have never made? Or is it a
claim for money? The police have not
admitted or agreed to anything at all.
What section of what legislation
entitled the author to make any demands
on the police for any affidavit at all?
None! Are there any laws which require
the police to comply with any bizarre
demand that they receive in respect of
a traffic infringement notice? Not in
Australia. The author believes that the
police are obliged to prove to the
motorist that they have sufficient
evidence to secure a conviction prior
to the motorist electing whether or not
to take the matter to court. This is
nonsense. The police are not required
to prove anything whatsoever until the
matter is called on for hearing before
a magistrate. Although the police can
be obligated to make discovery of
evidence in the pre-trial process they
are not obliged to do anything until a
court proceeding has commenced.
The purpose of an infringement
notice is to provide an expedient
manner for motorists to expedite minor
infringements of the law without the
need to drag people though a full-blown
court case. The motorist's option is to
accept it or dispute it. The court
process does not commence until the
motorist has elected to take the matter
to court. So this "conditional
acceptance" and "private settlement" is
pie-in-the-sky garbage. During the
court process the motorist is entitled
to request copies of the evidence that
will be alleged against him or her.
This is limited to matters of fact, not
questions of law. Much of what is
demanded in the first letter are
questions of law. If the motorist does
not agree with any aspect of the
allegations contained in the
infringement notice, the law requires
the motorist to lodge an objection so
that a court can determine the issue in
dispute. The law does not provide any
mechanism for "conditionally accepting"
an infringement notice. If you do not
object to it, you are taken to accept
it, even if you ignore it, and even if
you write crazy demands for
affidavits.
The second letter refers to the
"unsubstantiated denials that may be
made by them that the speed measuring
radar device does not comply with the
National Measurements Act 1960 when
used for any legal purpose." In my
experience the police have always been
very willing to admit that their speed
measuring devices are not certified
under the NMA. This is because there is
no requirement that they be so
certified. So the letter falsely
suggests that the NMA is relevant, and
that the police are trying to dodge the
question of whether or not their
devices are certified.
The letter then announces that the
matter of the outstanding infringement
notice is now closed. For reasons
unknown a Justice of the Peace is
required to witness your signature,
perhaps to make it all sound far more
official and plausible than it actually
is.
In my opinion, the contents of the
letters are so absurd that no police
could have any doubt that this charade
is a load of bullocks. Gullible and
desperate motorists on the other hand,
who have little or no legal training,
are likely to be conned by the official
sounding forms and the goobledy-gook.
They might think they are onto
something brilliant. Perhaps the whole
scheme is designed to woo and confuse
the poor motorist more than it is
designed to have any legal affect.
Maybe if it were written in plain
English everyone could see that it is
all a futile waste of time and
money.
I could write many paragraphs trying
to discern some meaning from the 3rd
letter, but if you read it for
yourselves you should arrive at the
same conclusions as me. It is a
mish-mash of old fashioned US civil law
mumbo-jumbo dressed up to look like it
has some relevance to speeding fines.
To think that this garbage could get
you off a traffic fine is
laughable.
Your
legal rights regarding infringement
notices.
After you receive an infringement
notice, your options are to object to
the infringement notice (which will
cancel it), else pay the fine and
accept liability, or else just ignore
it. By sending the above letter you are
effectively electing to ignore the fine
because your action has no real affect
on the course of the proceeding. The
legal process of infringement notices
is fully explained here.
A person who receives a fine does
not have any right to demand the police
to provide anything at this stage of
the proceeding. You could issue a FOI
request, but that will take about 3
months. Assuming that a valid
infringement notice has been lawfully
issued to you, the choice is yours
whether to accept or reject the
allegations contained in it. If you do
not accept liability for the offence,
or you want to force the police to
prove that an offence has been
committed (for example you want the
police to prove that they used a
properly calibrated and authorised
laser device) then your only option is
to lodge an objection and take the
matter to court. Once you are in the
court system the law allows you to
demand anything you want. If the police
refuse to provide it a Magistrate will
decide whether or not you are entitled
to the material you are seeking. But
the effect of choosing option 3 (doing
nothing or sending garbage letters) is
that you become a defaulting offender
and the fine will be enforced. If it is
a fine that carries mandatory licence
loss, then your licence will be
cancelled or suspended 28 days after
the date of the fine, and demerit
points will be recorded upon the making
of an enforcement order.
Sending these letters can not and
will not prevent you from suffering
licence loss or incurring demerit
points. It will not prevent an
enforcement order being made against
you. If you choose not to object to the
fine you will lose your right to have
the infringement notice cancelled and
you will be unable to force the police
to proceed by way of charge and
summons. You will lose the opportunity
to challenge each of the things listed
in the letter (if you think that
matters). For people who are eager to
win their cases, this is not a good
outcome. You usually are far better off
defending a charge and summons in court
than trying to set aside an enforcement
order and then fighting an infringement
notice in court. If you do not
understand the difference, then you are
probably out of your depth and should
get legal advice about what is best for
you.
The best these pro-forma letters
will do is give you a chance to wear
down the police in the hope that they
will soften or perhaps give up. You can
try that just as easily by following
the traditional path of objection. The
author of the website preaches that our
roads exist for all people to use
without restriction and that any
attempt by government to impose
restrictions on our use of them is
unlawful. He claims that local
governments are illegal because they do
not get a mention in the Commonwealth
or State constitution!!
He claims Victoria's road laws are not
binding, just guidelines, and everyone
is entitled to ignore them if they
wish!
Fee
simple.
The
end game
If you send all of the letters as
suggested by aussiespeedingfines.com,
the fine will be processed by the
enforcement system despite your
letters. That it their stated policy. I
am informed by senior police at the
Traffic Camera Office that the police
have received legal advice from Senior
Counsel ( a Q.C.) that the
aussiespeedingfines.com.au letters are
of no legal effect and should be
ignored. I agree with that advice.
If you send a valid objection to the
fine and ask for offence to be heard
and determined by a court, you will
soon receive a charge and summons in
the mail. You now have a court case and
you can run any defence you want. If
you rely on the defence that the police
have already entered into an agreement
with you to settle the case, and/or you
argue that the court has no
jurisdiction to hear the matter, you
will lose. It is a useless argument
that has never and will never succeed
because the police have not agreed to
any such thing. In Australia, silence
is not consent unless supported by a
legislative provision.
If you do not elect to fight the
fine in court, eventually an
enforcement order will be made against
you by the Infringements Court. Let's
assume you ignore the enforcement order
and their demand that you pay the
additional costs. Two months later a
warrant is issued for recovery of the
debt. Eventually the sheriff knocks on
your door carrying a pair of handcuffs,
a wheel lock for your car and a truck
to cart away your jet ski, billiard
table and pinball machines. He wants
money or your body. You show him the
letters you have sent to the police.
You tell the sheriff that the police
have not provided you with the
documentation and proofs that you
requested within the 28 days that you
allowed them. You explain to the
sheriff that the police have thereby
entered into a private settlement of
their claim and have agreed not to
prosecute you. You tell him that the
enforcement order is invalid and so too
is the warrant that stems from it, so
he is powerless to do anything to
enforce it. The sheriff laughs, waives
the warrant in your face, impounds your
car, suspends your drivers licence,
seizes your jet ski and trail bike, and
insists that if the money is not paid
within 7 days we will come back and
arrest you.
You go to see a lawyer and ask him
to take steps to reverse the injustice
you are experiencing. He makes
application to the Infringements court
to set aside the enforcement order that
has been made against you on the
grounds that the Infringements Court
had no power to make the order, given
the existence of a private settlement
agreement which pre-dated the
enforcement order. The registrar of the
Infringements Court refuses your
application for revocation as this
ground is considered fanciful. You
appeal against the registrar's refusal.
The appeal is then listed for hearing
before a Magistrate.
You attend the Magistrates Court on
the appointed day with your lawyer.
Your case is called. You have to
convince the Magistrate that the
enforcement order should be set-aside
and you should be given a chance to
defend the alleged offence. You get in
the witness box and give evidence to
the court. You tell the magistrate that
the infringement was settled by a
private agreement. You tender copies of
the letters you sent to the police. The
police prosecutor cross examines you.
He asks you if you exceeded the speed
limit on Geelong Road on the date in
question. You mumble something about
you are not sure. They produce your
first and second letters which you
tendered into evidence moments earlier.
They point out that in these letters
you state "Please understand that I am
more than willing to accept your claim
and pay the associated fine". You agree
that this is the case but your answer
to that is the letter has the words
"without prejudice" on it, so it can
not be used against you. The Magistrate
falls off his chair laughing. Of course
it can be used against you. You are the
one who tendered it into evidence to
prove the alleged private settlement
agreement. The police then suggest that
you could have objected to the fine if
you wanted to have your case heard and
determined by a court. You agree that
this is the case. The magistrate then
has to decide if there is any basis for
allowing the enforcement order to be
revoked and allowing you to defend the
allegation of the offence. Given that
you do not deny liability for the
offence, and you have no justification
for failing to object to the fine
within the time allowed, the court will
most likely refuse your request to set
aside the enforcement order. It will
refuse the application partly because
you will have failed to show that
refusing to set aside the order would
result in an injustice, or that you
have a realistic prospect of winning
your case should you be allowed to
defend the allegation, and because you
have failed to show any basis as to why
you have failed to bring the matter to
court in the usual manner (by objecting
to the fine within the time allowed).
So your appeal will be dismissed. You
will then be ordered to pay the amount
owing under the warrant, together with
your legal bill (if you have engaged
lawyers). So the end point is you have
been refused the opportunity to defend
yourself in court and you have racked
up more than double the original fine
amount as a debt to the state, and you
still have the demerit points, and an
ebook.
Who
operates
"AussieSpeedingFines.com?"
In June 2007 the
aussiespeedingfines.com website
contained the following terms and
conditions:
1.
You shall not use, or allow to be
used, any information contained
within "the website" in any way
against the authors.
2. Even if known, you shall not
disclose the names of the authors of
"the website" to anyone at any
time.
3. You fully understand that all the
information that is contained within
"the website" is provided to you on
a Without Prejudice basis.
4. You further acknowledge that none
of the information provided within
"the website" is to be considered
legal advice, it is simply provided
for informational purposes only.
By
continuing to read pages contained
in/on "the website" you agree to the
Terms and Conditions outlined above
of your own free will and understand
that any breach of those Terms and
Conditions will render you liable to
a penalty of AUD$1,000,000.00
payable immediately to the authors.
Should you NOT agree to ANY of the
Terms and Conditions above then you
must close down "the website" within
your browser and NOT read any
further.
If the author were legally trained,
he would know that it is illegal for a
contract to impose a penalty which is
greater than a fair and reasonable
estimate of the actual loss and damage
suffered as a result of the breach. So
I'm not intimidated by the threat of a
$1 million claim being made against me
even if simply reading his web site has
caused me to enter into a contract with
him.
The owner has gone to considerable
lengths to avoid being associated with
his website. He does not disclose his
identity as the owner on any part of
his site. When making payment to him by
credit card you are transacting with an
anonymous entity. If paying by cheque,
make it out to a service company. If
you want a refund or you want to make a
complaint, there is no-one to sue.
There is no person, registered business
name or Australian company that is
prepared to take responsibility for the
website. When you search whois
for the domain owner's details, you get
the following:
Registrant
Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service,
Inc.
Whois Agent
(ktypgvhx@whoisprivacyprotect.com)
+1.4252740657
Fax: +1.4256960234
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O aussiespeedingfines.com
Bellevue, WA 98007
US
- Administrative
Contact:
- Whois
Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
- Whois
Agent
(ktypgvhx@whoisprivacyprotect.com)
- +1.4252740657
- Fax:
+1.4256960234
- PMB 368,
14150 NE 20th St - F1
- C/O
aussiespeedingfines.com
- Bellevue,
WA 98007
- US
-
- Technical
Contact:
- Whois
Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
- Whois
Agent
(ktypgvhx@whoisprivacyprotect.com)
- +1.4252740657
- Fax:
+1.4256960234
- PMB 368,
14150 NE 20th St - F1
- C/O
aussiespeedingfines.com
- Bellevue,
WA 98007
- US
-
- Status:
Locked
-
- Name
Servers:
- NS85.MDWEBHOSTING.COM.AU
- NS86.MDWEBHOSTING.COM.AU
No meaningful information is
published about the identity or contact
details of the domain owner.Doesn't
sound like someone who is proud of his
work and prepared to stand by it.
Perhaps the author is just a very
humble man?! Here
is what others say about this.
In the online promotion of the
ebook, the author says this:
Please
don't wait to order this e-book
though. We have done everything in
our power to hide our identity from
the government, but they WILL
eventually find a way around this
and try to shut our site
down.
Might be because he doesn't want his
customers to lynch him when they
discover they have lost their licence
after being promised they will avoid
fines for life.
But it is now time to acknowledge
this legal genius. The
aussiespeedingfines.com website is
owned and operated by a man called
Mike
Palmer, who operates out
of his home in Beaumaris
Victoria (Tel/Fax: 03 9589 1639). Mike
Palmer is a motivational
speaker (a.k.a. an over-priced
spruiker). His online profile suggests
he is a student and follower of
Tony
Robbins, the American motivational
speaker who started out selling his own
seminars and who utilises firewalking
and hypnotism in personal power
building seminars. Mike spent some time
studying to be a hypnotist,
which he probably found more useful
than wasting any time studying law. He
also operates tours
around Melbourne (although I can't
find any sign of his registration as a
travel agent under the Travel
Agents Act). It seems Mike's powers
of persuasion are an integral part of
his business. Mike was planning to run
a speeding fine forum on 3 September
2007 through Bayside City Council's
Bayside
Business Network Seminar Series. A
couple of weeks before it ran, the
Council canned it because of concerns
that his business is unethical.
Mike
Palmer - public speaker - success
coaching international
Aussie
Speeding Fine's owner - Mike Palmer

Mike
Palmer's Exclusion
Clause
Here is a snippet from the
Aussiespeedingfines.com exclusion
clause:
All
of the information provided
by Aussie Speeding Fines in
this website is presented
as an information and
educational service only.
All aspects of the
information and educational
service provided by Aussie
Speeding Fines in this
website is not, and does
not, represent itself to be
legal advice in any way;
nor should it be used for
any other purpose than that
of education and
research. Aussie
Speeding Fines do not seek
to offer, nor offer any
form of legal
advice.
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Aussie
Speeding Fines note that
there will always be
potential risk involved in
any form of legal challenge
and that every individual
should make legal
challenges only according
to their own personal
situation, existing legal
education and ability.
Aussie Speeding Fines
therefore recommend that
before any legal
challenge or legal decision
is made, that everyone
should seek independent
legal advice as to the
suitability of the
strategies covered in this
website to their personal
legal profile and
goals.
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Aussie
Speeding Fines have taken
every care to ensure that
the content of this website
is accurate and timely, but
cannot take any
responsibility for errors
or omissions that may
occur.
This website is not
designed to replace your
licensed legal advisor. You
should seek appropriate
independent legal advice as
required, as general
information contained in
this document is impersonal
and not tailored to the
legal needs of any specific
individual.
Aussie Speeding Fines
cannot and do not accept
any responsibility or
liability for any loss,
claims, demands or damage
what-so-ever that may arise
directly, or indirectly, as
a result of any reliance
placed upon any information
conveyed in any form
(whether written or oral)
within this website.
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If you think that sounds dodgy,
you're right. Luckily Mike Palmer
suggests you should get independant
legal advice before you make a legal
decision. Well,
here is some
free independant barrister's legal
advice:
aussiespeedingfines.com is a scam. The
recommended strategies have no legal
basis whatsoever and you will be
wasting your money and risking your
licence if you follow his advice.
No lawyer has ever published
anything in support of Mike Palmer's
advice. Please let me know if it ever
happens! No Court has ever said Mike
Palmer's strategy is valid. The police
do not accept that his ideas have any
legal basis. If his ideas worked I, and
hundreds of other lawyers, would be
using the same tactics for our clients.
Nothing he has published is news to
traffic lawyers. Many of these ideas
have been around the traps for decades,
others are just plainly bizarre. The
ebook is mainly a compilation of
material that can be googled for free
from a variety of sites around the
world. The fact that someone (who wants
their identity to remain a secret for
obvious reasons) dares to charge money
for this garbage is outrageous. It is a
jailable offence to obtain financial
advantage by deception.
More of
Mike Palmer's legal
nonsense:
In
essence, no "Road Rules" publiction
in ANY state has been lawfully
enacted. No state government can
lawfully enact them because they
contravene our funadental
Constitutional rights (Section 92 of
the Commonwealth Constituion) to
travel freely on our roads.
Certian,
fines, such as red light camera
fines, also have fundamental flaws -
like speed cameras - in respect to
proving the authenticity of the
photographs produced by these
devices (see the section in the
e-book relating to the flawed MD5
algorithm).
All the
road rules are just that - rules.
They are NOT Acts or Laws. You must
remember that these rules were only
ever put in place to help create an
even flow of traffic. It makes sense
to have Stop signs and Give Way
signs that INDICATE what people
SHOULD do, but you cannot punish
them for not doing it unless they
actually cause an
accident.
In essence,
our roads were created in fee simple
and we cannot be charged to use
them, or park on them.
Chapter 9 of the e-book goes
into much greater detail as to why
parking tickets are illegal
(including explaining why local
governments have no lawful
power).
Copied
directly (with typos) from:
www.aussiespeedingfines.com
Palmer claims the (Commonwealth)
Consitution prohibits the making of
road laws. Then he claims they are not
laws anyway, but merely
recommendations! S.92
of the constitution says nothing at
all about this apparant right to travel
freely on our roads. S.92 prohibits the
states from imposing duties or taxes on
interstate trade or commerce. Although
many people would like to believe what
Palmer says has some substance, the
unfortunate truth is it is pure
fantasy. All State parliaments spend so
much time passing road laws and
enforcing them with police and courts.
Won't the States be very disappointed
and embarrassed to learn that Palmer
has discovered that all this activity
is unlawful? I wonder why no court has
pointed this out to any State
government up til now? If Councils have
no lawful powers then I guess Palmer
doesn't pay rates on this Beach Road
house, especially if the rate notice
seeks more than $20.00. And I guess he
must be winning his court cases every
time Bayside Council seeks an order for
possession and sale of his house after
several years of non-payment of rates.
Why aren't the newspapers or law
journals reporting his legal
victories?
His ebook is a work of fiction and
the legal theories in it have no
foundation in logic or law. You would
be better off spending $20 on a Peter
Carey novel. It is probably easy for a
gullible person to believe what is
written in the ebook. What is hard to
believe is that Palmer is stupid enough
to believe in what the book
contains.
Selling
Legal Advice
Mike Palmer is earning money selling
legal advice and legal opinions. It is
more than just legal information, it is
a controversial strategy that has the
ability to adversely affect your legal
rights. Mike Palmer's book purports to
tell you what your legal rights are,
what the law is and how you should
exercise your legal rights to achieve a
specific goal. You are paying Mike
Palmer to assist you to avoid liability
for a criminal offence. So much is
clear from the fact that his book is
targeted at people who want to defeat
being liable for speeding fines. The
issuing by the police of a speeding
infringement notice is a legal process
and advice on how to deal with that
process is legal advice, no matter how
much Palmer might deny that it is.
Palmer is selling you a legal strategy
intended to affect your rights in a
legal proceeding. It is not an offence
to give legal assistance for free, and
it is not an offence to provide people
with information about the law. If
aussiespeedingfines truly had your
interests at heart, they would be
providing this information free of
charge just like fightfines.info does.
if you charge money for providing legal
assistance you could be engaging in
legal practice. Under the s.2.2.2
of the Legal Profession Act 2004 it
is unlawful to engage in legal practice
without being registered. This offence
is punishable by up to 2 years
imprisonment. By charging money for his
legal advice, Mike Palmer is possibly
engaging in legal practice in breach of
s.2.2.2 of the Legal Profession Act
because he is not a registered legal
practitioner in the state of Victoria.
You can search for him yourself at the
Legal
Services Board.
If you have paid money to anyone for
legal advice of this nature, you should
demand to see a current legal
practicing certificate. If the person
is not a registered legal practitioner,
they may be committing an offence
against the law of the state in which
they are practicing, i.e. in the state
in which you are receiving the advice.
You might wish to complain to the law
institute in your state if you believe
you have paid for legal advice from
someone who is not qualified or
registered. If as a result of relying
on legal advice you have suffered loss
and damage (e.g. you have lost your
licence for 12 months because you lost
the chance to defend yourself in
court), you may be able to claim
compensation from the person who gave
you the incorrect advice. All lawyers
carry insurance against such claims.
Non-lawyers have no such cover and you
will have a much harder time recovering
your losses from a non-lawyer. You will
also find that non-lawyers will have an
exclusion clause that says they are not
giving you legal advice (even though
they are) and you are fully responsible
for the choices you make and if in
doubt you should get legal advice!
Palmer says he is not selling legal
advice. Apparently he is just
publishing a book. If that is true then
he is obliged to deposit a copy of his
book with the State Library of Victoria
pursuant to s.49
Libraries Act:
1. A
good copy of the whole of every new
publication published in Victoria,
other than a prescribed publication,
must be deposited by or on behalf of
the publisher in accordance with
directions of the Library Board of
Victoria at a place or with a person
determined by the Board within two
months after the day on which the
publication was first
published.
If you do a search at the State
Library you will not find any record of
a deposit of his publication. So is
Palmer publishing a book or providing
private legal opinions? As they say on
ACA: You be the judge!
Terms and
Conditions of this
webpage:
1.
You shall not use, or allow to be used,
any information contained within this
page in any way against the author.
2. By reading this page, you agree not
to complain about it. If you breach
this condition, you are liable to a
penalty of $3,000,000,000.
3. You fully understand that all the
information that is contained within
this webpage is provided to you on a
Without Prejudice basis (meaning I
won't be prejudiced by it, even though
you might be).
4. You further acknowledge that none of
the information provided within this
webpage is to be considered legal
advice, it is simply provided for
informational purposes only.
5. I have taken every care to ensure
that the content of this website is
accurate and timely, but cannot take
any responsibility for errors or
omissions that may occur. If I've
stuffed -up, please blame someone
else.
6. I cannot and do not accept any
responsibility or liability for any
loss, claims, injuries, demands or
damage what-so-ever that may arise
directly, or indirectly, as a result of
any reliance placed upon any
information conveyed in any form
(whether written or oral) within this
website. I am just responsible for
collecting the money.
By
continuing to read pages contained
in/on this webpage you agree to the
Terms and Conditions outlined above of
your own free will and understand that
any breach of those Terms and
Conditions will render you liable to a
penalty of AUD$2,000,000,000.00 payable
immediately to the author. Should you
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Conditions above then you must close
down this page within your browser and
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forget everything you have read up to
date. Penalty:
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Senior
Sergeant Ron Ritchie. Senior Sergeant
Ritchie
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